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Post by apollo on Jul 23, 2012 5:38:32 GMT -6
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Craig Biggio
Sammy Sosa
Mike Piazza
Curt Schilling
Does there need to be a wing for stars from 1995-2005- as Peter Gammons states from the steroid era?
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Post by indianbacker on Jul 23, 2012 12:42:15 GMT -6
These were all good players. Maybe they will all get in.
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Post by julio on Jul 24, 2012 11:53:01 GMT -6
cheaters. Ban them.
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Post by apollo on Jul 24, 2012 13:32:48 GMT -6
How do you know on all of them? The Mitchell report has been proven to be fraudulent, when Frank Thomas comes up soon, no one suspected him, but how do we really know on anyone from this era, except that Jose Canseco was 7 for 7 in his book Juiced on players, everyone laughed at him then, no one is anymore. Remember when Sammy and McGwire saved baseball? How Bud Selig, Donald Fehr, and the Media turned a blind eye between 1995- 2005. The record books are forever tarnished and will these players get in on the first or second ballot. Maybe they should start an era committee like they did for the Golden era players that helped get in Santo and call it the Golden Shyringe era and have them meet at BALCO and have Clemens and Bonds trainers be on the committee.
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Post by julio on Jul 25, 2012 21:29:22 GMT -6
They are juicy. They all cheated.
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Post by richsapper on Jul 27, 2012 21:51:56 GMT -6
I would put every last one of them in (except maybe Piazza, not sold on him as a hall-of-famer). apollo is right McGwire and Sosa saved baseball. The MLB was going into the toilet after the strike and fans started finding alternatives until the home run race. This list has some of the greatest hitters of all time. Schilling was outstanding on the mound.
Of course, I have gone on record as saying that performance enhancing drugs don't bother me especially in baseball. Even if you DID have a problem with them, which I would imagine most do, McGwire in particular took andro, which was perfectly legal when he payed.
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Post by apollo on Jul 28, 2012 15:45:08 GMT -6
McGwire and Palmeiro have not gotten more than 20% of the vote that might be a telltale sign here.
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Post by richsapper on Jul 29, 2012 12:22:04 GMT -6
apollo, you are right, I think it is. The idiots who vote for this stuff won't vote for them, so they won't get in, at lease not at first. There is no reason these guys should not get in.
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