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Post by jtjrmoney8 on Jan 3, 2013 22:44:48 GMT -6
Michigan City just lost to Lake Central tonight..that definitely puts Merrillville in the drivers seat..would anyone predict the Pirates to lose at least 2 conference games? Sounds like alot to ask
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Post by apollo on Jan 4, 2013 9:27:55 GMT -6
Pirates play LC at home, should be the favorite to win DAC.
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Post by richsapper on Jan 4, 2013 10:30:38 GMT -6
Huge upset last night with Lake Central beating Michigan City. Not really sure what happened there.
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Post by apollo on Jan 4, 2013 11:18:42 GMT -6
LC Dominated the backboards 40-29.
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Post by indianbacker on Jan 5, 2013 22:38:13 GMT -6
Lol..sure What do I need to apologize for? Please let me know where she lands for D1 I heard she's getting plenty of interest from IU....Northwest (True, by the way) I said that Monahan wasn't a D1 player..didn't say she was a terrible basketball player..she's a very good shooter, and that was evident when she won the 3 point contest at the Rumble Portage is pretty good, and alot of teams work hard..they put on a decent showing at the tournament..but lets not pretend they are winning sectionals or anything like that..not gonna beat Merrillville, Michigan City, or probably even LaPorte You are a jerk. You are also a liar. You said she wasn't any good and Portage was not any good. I don't give a care where or if she plays in college. She is the best player Portage has had in a long time and maybe ever. I also said Portage is good. The Duneland Conference is good and their sectional is good too. In the summer you said they were bad and they aren't. You said they would finish below .500. They are 9-5 now, and should be 4-4 or 5-3 in their last 8 games. They are better than Valpo, Crown Point, Chesterton, and Munster and that equals 4 more wins. The last game against LaPorte was close, so they have a good possibility in that one too. Lake Central, Michigan City and Merrillville will be hard to win games. That would mean they will be 13-9 or 14-8 when the season ends. That is above .500. You have no idea what you are talking about and you owe an apology.
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Post by jtjrmoney8 on Jan 6, 2013 7:57:41 GMT -6
You are right that I said Portage wasn't any good..that part is true..they will finish above .500 this year..they are better than those teams you mentioned..the only team they have beat that I think is pretty good is Lake Central..that team has come on strong as of late
So Portage wins 13 games..still going to finish probably 4th or 5th in the conference depending on how those final 2 games with LaPorte and Lake Central play out..so I admit I was wrong about Portage being bad..they are a decent team
And you must not have been watching Portage basketball for a very long time..there's an Indiana all-star jersey of Lisa Samplawski hanging up in the gym, or at least there was..she went on to have a nice career at Loyola, and lead Portage to the sectional title in 2007..Monahan is not on the same level as her, not even close..I didn't say Monahan was a bad basketball player..I said that she didn't deserve to be a junior all-star and that she was not a D1 basketball player..it's a great accomplishment to score 1,000 points..Samplawski also did that..and the college thing is sort of important..if Monahan was as great as you say she is, why isn't she getting any offers? She's a senior and hasn't signed anywhere..if she is that good then she should at least be getting some D2 offers
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Post by apollo on Jan 6, 2013 9:40:32 GMT -6
Go Portage HS Fight on for our fame, pass the ball you players and a TD wins this game Rah, Rah, Rah. I thought a little school song spirit will help.
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Post by richsapper on Jan 6, 2013 12:05:39 GMT -6
JT, come on man. You know as well as I do that were you go to college has nothing to do with what kind of high school player you are. Countless GREAT high school players didn't play D-1 basketball because they didn't fit the college prototype. Other choose smaller schools because maybe the D-1 school doesn't have their major, and after all, that is what college is about..academics, not sports. Especially on the girls side where there is not a great chance of playing professionally. There are also players who choose not to play at the next level. I am not saying that is the case with her, but it happens. Kids get tired of playing. Again, not saying that is true in this case, but it does happen.
Monohan did deserve to be a Junior All Star (not that being an all star means anything, all star games are stupid).
indianbacker is right though, you said Portage wasn't good and they are. Merrillville and Michigan City are on another level, so if that is your barometer, it's really unfair. LaPorte is good, but they are really on the same level with Portage, particularly without their point guard. Lake Central has had flashes of greatness (see MC win), but could end up behind Portage.
That said, Portage has beat Hobart, who granted plays in a weaker conference, but is still 12-4 and Lake Central, who beat Michigan City. They also barely lost against a very, very good Homestead team.
Looking at the rest of the schedule they have Merrillville, Valpo. Crown Point, Chesterton, Michigan City, LaPorte, Munster and Lake Central. Obviously, Merrillville and MC would be very hard to beat. Munster, Valpo, Crown Point, and Chesterton are probably wins. Given that, 13-7...the toss-ups are LaPorte and Lake Central. It is very hard to beat a pretty evenly matched team in one season, so they might split those. so, 15-8 I would guess.
That said, Portage might be 3rd or 4th in the DAC. No shame in that with as good as Merrillville and MC are.
Now THAT said, I seriously doubt any NWI team is going to make it far in the tournament. The DAC is strong, but not as strong as the rest of the state.
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Post by indianbacker on Jan 7, 2013 12:28:52 GMT -6
jtjrmoney8 You were wrong and can not admit it. richsapper thank you, that is true.
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Post by jtjrmoney8 on Jan 10, 2013 13:14:25 GMT -6
I admitted that portage was decent..for this area they are an above average team..i give monahan credit for putting up solid scoring numbers up at a 4a school..she isnt the best ever at portage..i think we all have different perspectives on how great players are..i base it on ability..i look at all of the strengths and weaknesses and formulate an opinion based on that..i dont think she is a bad player but when you start talking about making all star teams, that player should be one of the best in the state..i would argue based on her ability compared to other players statewide, she isnt on that level..i just think she has been over hyped in this area..toni murphy has had a good career and has plenty of ability..why didnt she make the all starteam? Do you all think monahan is better than murphy? Maybe its just politics..
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Post by indianbacker on Jan 16, 2013 9:05:40 GMT -6
You are still stupid. She deserves to be there.
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Post by jtjrmoney8 on Jan 16, 2013 15:07:35 GMT -6
Let's see if she makes the team THIS year as a senior..there's a top 60 workout I believe, which I'm sure she will be invited..some of the players have already been hand picked (politics), but the rest will be chosen from how they do in that workout..if she is picked for the senior all-star team, then I'll admit I was completely wrong about everything..sound good?
Raveen Murray (Merrillville) made the team last year..
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Post by crowntownmike on Jan 20, 2013 15:57:03 GMT -6
jtjtmoney8 just likes to make everyone sound like they are bad.
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Post by jtjrmoney8 on Jan 24, 2013 12:28:01 GMT -6
No..everyone needs to realize that the level of play in this area is not up to par right now..maybe if we are ignored by the rest of the state and not given undeserved recognition, it will motivate players and teams to start working a little bit harder..standards need to be higher
But this doesn't apply to Crown Point..they are just too sweet! Watch out Merrillville and City, the Dogs are coming!
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Post by richsapper on Jan 24, 2013 21:44:27 GMT -6
you are right, the level of play here (an when I say "up here" I mean pretty much anywhere north of Hamilton County) is not as good as the schools in the south, especially in Marion and Hamilton Counties. NWI has been ignored by the rest of the state for a long time, in fact, other than the Hobart football dynasty in the 80's and early 90's, Roosevelt track in the 70's and 80's, and East Chicago basketball in the 60's, the region has not been up to par with the rest of the state. I don;t see that happening in the future either. Sure there is a great team here and there, and their are great players, but not a lot of championship caliber teams.
That said, the region is good for what it is. The DAC is pretty strong in girls hoops. Merrillville and Michigan City are pretty good...so is Portage...it sounds cliche, but it's true, Crown Point is MUCH better than their record, they are just really young...LaPorte is pretty good and so is Lake Central.
As far as who is an All Star and who isn't, who cares? All Star teams are garbage anyway. A lot of time, players who buy ads in this publication or that, who promote themselves get votes. The voters are from the media in large part, and those media vote for the players in their area typically. The ones who are outside of their area are traditionally going to be highly touted prospects. All Star games are meaningless. That is certainly no measure of greatness..
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